Just think! Jim, if we’d been in the same place at the same time, you might be my husband now.

I was pretty tentative about being out at the bars in the mid-late1980’s because I wasn’t sure it was safe given my rather visible position with the hospital.

I was afraid I could lose my job, or at a minimum, my credibility.

You should see that area of Des Moines now. It was gay bars and adult videos in those years. Now it’s a thriving downtown urban area, although probably at this moment, with 6 feet separation.